[mistermann]

> Though I think, coming from the eastern philosophy side of things, the association is kind of strange.

I think the primary common interest is the meditation aspect due to the similarities in effects, but then out of that often comes similar viewpoints on life.

> At least from a vipassana perspective, anything like psychedelics will just get in the way.

No doubt they have an effect, but in what way do you think they "get in the way"?

[reify_null]

If I wanted to learn how to live life, accepting the reality of it, while being on psychedelics, then I guess they wouldn't get in the way :)

[mistermann]

I believe that to some degree it can give one somewhat of a sense of what meditation can achieve without expending serious effort. The "pushback" from the meditation community is puzzling to me, but then all of this is human nature isn't it, so it shouldn't be surprising I guess.