[krapp]

>Flipping over tables is at least something.

No, it isn't. It literally isn't anything. It wasn't even anything when Jesus did it, because he did it, and then the people he did it to had him nailed to a tree and they kept on doing business.

[sbmassey]

... and then a movement was started in his name which resulted in big changes in how society worked, or at least changes in how the leaders had to act in public.

[krapp]

... and that movement was integrated into the establishment, first through Rome, then European and American imperialism, but the establishment continues to this day to be just as venal and corrupt as ever.

[sbmassey]

The temples no longer contain money changers, however.

[yourbandsucks]

I take your point but Jesus has to be the worst possible example for your case.