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by malwrar 2486 days ago
Is this insinuating that winning victimizes gambling addicts? If so, I don’t understand that connection.

Gamblers are making a personal choice to bet their money, other gamblers should not be made to bear responsibility if that gambler’s choice turns out to be a poor one. Gambling addicts obviously exist, but they are playing the same game everyone else is. If you want to protect addicts from harming their finances, change the rules to accommodate that goal (betting limits, credit/finance checks, outright banning of gambling) rather than expect other gamblers to follow undefined rules that may or may not protect other gamblers from themselves.

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The problem is that gambling is a zero-sum game. By your logic, the crypto market being played in 2017-2018 was perfectly ethical even though people's life savings were being drained to fill the pockets of other people who were capitalizing on the ignorance of the layperson.
There are good arguments that gambling isn't exactly a zero-sum game. (Non-addictive enjoyment, hobby, relaxation, etc.)

But you're right in that the vast majority of players in gambling (including the house) are either (a) being fleeced, or (b) fleecing others. When the majority of users/members of a particular system are either victims (in some sense), or profiting off victims, I question the amorality of that system. So traditional morality called gambling "immoral" for good reason, I think -- if only because of this emergent, victimizational behavior it encourages.

It seems to me that economic regulation exists primarily to--and functions ideally when it successfully does--protect the vulnerable and prevent victimization. So it seems right and good to me that gambling is outlawed in most of the US.

Are you referring to the sudden boom of the general public dumping their money into cryptocurrency hoping to get rich?

Hell, I’ll bite here and assert the same as my parent comment: the folks who dumped their life savings into crypto made a personal choice. I fail to see how the rest of the market bears responsibility to those who lost their “investment”. So long as everyone is playing by the same rules, there’s no way you should be ethically responsible from benefiting from other’s losses.

You signed up for the risk when you chose to play. Do you believe that if I dump my money in a stock and it tanks, investors who benefit from that are now responsible for the money I’ve lost?

Gambling is not zero sum, there's the enjoyment (which is the most important factor for an addict, unfortunately), the percentage the bookie makes, the investment in facilities (shops, communications, race courses etc) that all occur because of an exchange of money.
Crypto is not a zero sum game, because money is being printed in the Forex markets all the time, which bleeds into the crypto markets. There is a lag time, called the Cantillon effect, between when money enters circulation, and the arrival of downstream purchasing power inflation.