[crispyporkbites]

Actually bus drivers can’t move the bus until all passengers have tapped in.

Then you have all the ticket machines, barriers, stations, staff etc that would be completely unnecessary.

The only real bonus of collecting fares is that tfl acts as a treasury with millions of pounds in funds to invest.

[afarrell]

> Actually bus drivers can’t move the bus until all passengers have tapped in.

I have observed that this is false in London at least 30 times.

[dx034]

Not in London. You can use card readers at all doors and drivers tend to start driving once everyone is on board, not only once everyone has checked in.

[crispyporkbites]

That’s only on the new route masters in zone1, outside of zone 1 there’s one door and everyone must enter through that door, tap in while the driver watches and the driver will not leave until everyone who gets on has paid