[condercet]

This is a good list. The default user experience for Perl 6 needs to be dramatically improved.

Developer ergonomics matter! Yes, when you run 'python' you get cpython, and Java is probably hotspot vm or openjdk or something (but Java is not a good example of developer ergonomics).

Rust is one of the best examples here -- adoption is being driven by the ease-of-use of the entire toolchain, including the package manager and things as small as human readable compiler errors.

[mempko]

perl6 has a REPL just like python if you just type perl6. There is a package manager called zef. It has some of the best and most human-readable compiler errors I have ever seen in a compiler. It has one of the simplest FFI to C I have seen to interface with the rest of the world. If there is anything perl6 got wrong, it wasn't ergonomics.

[condercet]

Yes, perl6 does a lot of things right. It's a great language and ecosystem that deserves more adoption.

But all the things the parent comment listed, particularly branding, are in my mind part of developer ergonomics. And there is room for improvement. They wouldn't be talking about renaming the language if this wasn't the case.

[mempko]

Yup, definitely agree a rename is in order. I tell people, "You must try perl 6" and they go "Oh, I tried that long time ago in the 90s". They just don't here the "6" after the perl.