[EugeneOZ]

> nothing beats usability of OS X

I used to share same opinion, but Windows 10 is surprisingly good nowadays, I didn't expect it to be so nice to use.

[kofejnik]

Ads in start menu? Apps installed without my consent? No, thank you

[V-2]

If by "ads in start menu" you mean the lame app suggestions, it's trivial to disable the thing.

[jdnenej]

This gets said about 5000 feature on windows. A good OS doesn't require you to spend an hour turning off 400 toggles only to have them turn back on in an update

[EugeneOZ]

Sure it's not 4999, exactly 5000? And number of toggles is exact, not an exaggeration? Because if we will exaggerate MacOS issues, who knows the winner of this game.

Just for note: I use them both (win and macos).

[kofejnik]

by your logic, any ad can be reframed as "a lame suggestion". They're still ads, though, and still very unwelcome. And last time I checked, there wasn't a switch to easily turn them off, completely and permanently.

[V-2]

While I admittedly can't remember what I did exactly in order to switch them off at the beginning... I'm not seeing any, ever. So clearly I must've used such a switch

[EugeneOZ]

Never experienced it. I don't advertise Win10, so no need for aggressive "no thank you", I don't give a fuck if you will use it.