[naiveai]

While this is all somewhat interesting, I'm not sure what the point here is - all of these things seem to be reasonable things to do?

[jjeaff]

I didn't think that the Opera startup was acceptable at all. It preloaded cookies from more than a dozen 3rd party sites.

[bad_user]

Opera is basically compromised and people should know about it.

[tpxl]

Can you give some more info on this? A quick DDG search revealed nothing.

[alienallys]

That's when you go to Google. Asking us is akin to using us as a proxy for Google.

[tpxl]

I googled it and got a bunch of articles about data breaches of Opera services.

What I understood the GP post to be is that the owners of the browser do shady stuff, which I found no evidence for on Google (or DDG). So was Opera compromised by a third party or is Opera compromised by the first party (malicious owners?).

[kevingrahl]

One could use the Startpage bang !sp to use them as a proxy for Google.

[tannhaeuser]

You call FF displaying pro-privacy promotionals while connecting to GA and Google Tag Manager reasonable?

[piotrkubisa]

Heads up, Mozilla is on the way to be notorious Google services/Google Cloud user [0]. Recently, they started adoption of the Google Spanner in the Firefox-Sync related backend services, while in others they adopted the Google Pub Sub. The use of GA and GTM might seem like hypocrisy but my guess mozillians don't have enough workforce and/or assets to control infrastructure to roll their own analytics platform.

[0]: https://github.com/search?q=org%3Amozilla-services+google&ty...

[tannhaeuser]

> mozillians don't have enough workforce and/or assets to control infrastructure to roll their own analytics platform

That's hardly an excuse when you want to differentiate on privacy, is it?

[AsyncAwait]

Worth noting that Mozilla does have a special contract with Google, they say preserver privacy.

[tannhaeuser]

Yet still I think we should point it out. Mozilla can't have their cake, and eat it, too.

[kdbg]

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697436#c14

[mda]

Why not? What is wrong with it?

[mort96]

Sending your data to a global surveillance network at the same time as they're boasting about how much they respect your privacy is a little odd.

[jdavis703]

Well at a minimum it should be a relief that they aren't doing anything you'd consider nefarious.