[HNcantBtrustd]

>Apple's Safari actually has better standing in terms of alignment of user and developer incentives.

Apple gets credit for being aligned with users and developers?

Out of any of the tech companies, I see Apple the most detached from their users and developers.

Forcing proprietary software, hardware, and accessories is not "for users and developers".

That's Apple's way of generating additional sales and data for Apple.

If they had users and developers as their primary goal, it would be easier to be an Apple customer.

[rsynnott]

I assume they meant aligned _with respect to users and developers_. Google is primarily an advertising company, and Firefox's revenue comes mostly from Google. Apple has no interests in ads these days (and their old ad platform never did browser ads anyway), so you don't have the same sort of competing incentives.

[majewsky]

At least with Apple, the users are actually customers. Google's customers are advertisers.

[tannhaeuser]

> Apple gets credit for being aligned with users and developers?

Yeah I can see where this wasn't very well put into words. I meant Safari core browser development is financed via Apple sales, as opposed to FF being in the position where Mozilla wouldn't want to bite the hands that feed them. Though Apple is also taking Google money for listing them as default search provider on Safari and has ambitions to push their service business.