[onevu]

It's fortunate I can buy an iphone for my mum and she hasn't had a single problem with it.

On the other hand I bought my dad a laptop with Windows and despite having an antivirus he's had all kinds of problems with it, including some heavy duty adware.

[isostatic]

Indeed, I wouldn't suggest anything other than a chromebook for my relatives

[phatfish]

You can setup Windows to be secure, just make sure to not give your parents admin accounts. Install the apps they use and give them normal user accounts.

Provide the password for elevation and educate to only type that in when they are installing something they know is secure. Likely they will forget the password and have to check with their "IT helper" anyway, and sanity check there actions then.

I have a Windows 7 machine setup like this for my parents and they have never had a problem with malware. The stuff that lives in the user profile gets caught by AV, and I have to install something for them maybe twice a year.

I would rather put in a little extra work setting up a Windows laptop than send metrics for the entire system to Google. Their Android phones take care of that invasion of privacy.

[onevu]

You don't need admin access for anything. Without admin privileges I can install new software, sniff your passwords, encrypt your files, participate in a DDoS attack, mine Bitcoin...

[isostatic]

> You can setup Windows to be secure

Or I could get them to buy something far cheaper that's already secure, rather than having to learn how to admin an OS that I have had no need to use for nearly 20 years.

> check with their "IT helper"

The whole point is to avoid being an "IT Helper", otherwise I'd just give them an ubuntu laptop.

> The stuff that lives in the user profile gets caught by AV,

Audio video?