[mikekchar]

As a fellow Canadian I avoid the title. What's wrong with software developer? I don't do engineering, from the perspective of a P.Eng. I've only worked with one P.Eng to my knowledge and he couldn't do software engineering either (he wasn't even a particularly good software developer). I've heard of people doing things that sound like real engineering wrt software, but I've never actually met anyone who did it. I don't really travel in those circles.

However, I've worked with a fair number of really good software developers, who I think have earned that title. An iron ring means nothing to me in the work that I do. I don't suppose that you meant to imply that it did, but there is often some weird idea that an engineer is better than a developer. I'm not sure where that idea came from.

[checktheorder]

True, I didn't mean to imply officially-sanctioned engineers are better than developers in all things, or that one can't be both, or that glacially slow and careful programming is the right approach in all circumstances. I just have issues with developers in companies with "move fast and break things" cultures calling what they do "engineering".