[Marsymars]

> It can also play from Spotify etc. and the binaries for that are probably bloated like most cloud services.

One of my favourite things about my Sonos setup is that it avoids me having to run bloated cloud service binaries on my personal computing devices. (Most notably, of the services I use, SiriusXM digital services have always been most unpleasant to use.)

[Gwypaas]

That's what made me ditch sonos 4 years ago. Being forced to run everything through the awful Sonos app instead of casting from the dedicated app or playing through Bluetooth without any delays.

[Marsymars]

Last I checked, the Sonos app is better than the SiriusXM app. Not that I use it much anyway, I mostly use Sonos/Sirius via Alexa control.

[solarkraft]

What do you use now? Seems to me like the only decent solution is UPnP.

[dingaling]

But the cost of that convenience is in giving random devices full access to both your LAN and the Internet.

You could VLAN them into a separate audio-devices network and whitelist their Internet access but the effort in doing that would seem to outweigh any advantages of network audio devices.

Sometimes a dumb, network-unaware Bluetooth audio sink just works...

[Marsymars]

I've never found either Bluetooth, or the Sirius app to "just work". And Sonos is an established company, their speakers aren't "random devices" in the same sense as random IoT devices from Amazon.