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by bdcravens 2500 days ago
What are you using for the backend? A SPA has no value without one. Unless you're using something like Firebase, pretty good chance your backend is an MVC app. (I think you're confusing server-rendered apps with the MVC pattern)
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zawerf 2500 days ago
If you're using graphql for the backend, is it still MVC?

Even if you can stretch the definition to fit, is it still useful to organize your code along those terms instead of what's natural in the new ecosystem? (data source resolvers, type schemas, queries/mutations)

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bdcravens 2500 days ago
Depends on what you're building the API in. GraphQL is a specification, not a language. For example, you can build a GraphQL API using Rails.
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nullwasamistake 2500 days ago
Eh I guess I meant "traditional" web MVC where HTML template for the whole page is pre-rendered on the server.

We use gRPC web, so backend is a bunch of RPC endpoints. Front end is regular SPA.

This has worked great for us because it reduces backend to "shipping objects" instead of all the bs you normally have to deal with in HTTP.

With gRPC there's no use for rails, or any HTTP server framework. As far as I can tell, this is the future of web endpoints, so rails will die out.

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bdcravens 2500 days ago
> rails will die out

That'll suck. Hope your company doesn't use Github.

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nullwasamistake 2500 days ago
Amazon still runs a bunch of Perl in the back. Just because you're stuck with some design choice doesn't mean that framework has a solid future. People still write plenty of COBOL but you don't see any new applications using it
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rubyfan 2499 days ago
Plenty of new mainframe code is written in corporate settings. Legacy modernization is strong as ever and for some companies that doesn’t mean moving off mainframe - it means upgrading, cleaning up and cloning legacy COBOL code bases and some times writing new.
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RangerScience 2500 days ago
Pretty sure Rails is just adapting so that the V in the MVC is the SPA.
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nullwasamistake 2500 days ago
I'm convinced RPC frameworks are the future of REST. It's too crufty without them. Most of the rails stack just isn't involved in those calls, so there's not much purpose using it.
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