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by manigandham 2506 days ago
HN is a highly technical audience and the commenters here perfectly understand what AMP does. There's no irrational hatred here, and that's a silly thing to say in the face of multiple reasoned explanations of what people are finding wrong with it.

RSS is completely voluntary and used for inventory that is not serviced by websites. It has nothing to do with instant loading and can carry as little data as the pub wants. Apple News is Apple also wanting control, the same reason as FB-IA and AMP, and was also designed for offline use and device-local recommendations. Pubs willingly trade-off the loss of control for the extra reach but both FB-IA and AN support RSS feeds now because of pushback to use an existing syndication format.

You haven't actually provided as reason for why instant loading is necessary other than saying it exists and therefore it must be. That's not an argument, it's a tautology. If Google highly ranked sites loading under 1-second on the top half then you would get fast sites like HN. No AMP and yet here we are on instant loading website. Stackoverflow and dev.to are other examples, with no AMP required. Perhaps if publishers had both the incentive and didn't have to waste resources on AMP for SERP ranking, we could all be enjoying faster sites now.

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> HN is a highly technical audience and the commenters here perfectly understand what AMP does.

You yourself provided a counterexample earlier in the thread. Here's another: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20666920

These comments are highly upvoted, so the readers of the comments also don't understand AMP. If they haven't bothered to understand it but hate it anyway, that is clearly irrational, is it not?

> RSS is completely voluntary

Just like AMP.

> and used for inventory that is not serviced by websites.

Nonsense. RSS items almost always link back to plain web pages with the same content but with more publisher control.

> You haven't actually provided as reason for why instant loading is necessary other than saying it exists and therefore it must be.

I showed you an example of users preferring it. These results are clearly labeled, and users like me click them on purpose. If it was purely about control, they wouldn't be labeled.

As far as it being about control, you still haven't explained why Google ceded control to all other link aggregators just like RSS instead of following Apple's and Facebook's path.