[gorzynsk]

Additionally when they treat managers as other engineers - meaning that they want to discuss changes or improvements without judging others for their ideas - just decide for them and announce your decision to show who is in charge.

[arethuza]

"just decide for them and announce your decision to show who is in charge."

That reminds me of a conversation I had with a CEO once when I was a VP Engineering:

Me: "I think we have the scope of the new version pretty well understood by everyone and things are looking good for delivering on time"

CEO "I know for a fact that you don't understand the scope"

Me: "<confused>Pretty sure I do"

CEO: "Well I've decided as things are going so well we can add a few additional features"

Me: "Arghhhh..."

NB This was a while ago - my rookie mistake was having everything under control and everyone working calmly and productively and letting the CEO know, whereas the CEO favoured the "everyone must be near to panicking at all times" school of management.

Edit: Of course the features he mentioned were daft and were never implemented - he wasn't actually interested in them, just in unsettling me <sigh>

[AstralStorm]

Yes, because people do not resent you for making bad decisions for bad reasons. /s

This only works if you make decent decisions.

People resenting you is the first step to quitting. It is said that people quit bad bosses, not the job.

Every manager would want that to be true, but it often isn't. They lack expert knowledge. Or they cannot actually make decisions that actually matter themselves, or sometimes they have unrealistic expectations.

(Sometimes of narcissistic kind, like if the influence they give will make unworkable things suddenly work out.)