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by MagnumOpus 2499 days ago
- Normally as in almost everywhere in the world (apart from a few places like Sweden I think?)

- Buying a house is not a living expense, it is a capital investment. This is the reason why statisticians either only include rents (e.g. the EU Eurostat) or replicate the housing costs of owner-occupiers with an “owners equivalent rent” (the US BLS does this).

- Housing might be 30% or more of CPI in the US but none of it is house prices for the reason above. Most of it is rents and owners equivalent rent, some of it is furnishing costs, some of it is utility tariffs, some of it is costs of repairs and maintenance.

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> Normally as in almost everywhere in the world (apart from a few places like Sweden I think?)

Aren't you contradicting yourself when you go on to say that both the US BLS and Eurostat do include housing in their indices?

> statisticians either only include rents [or] “owners equivalent rent”

OK. So housing is part of the CPI, yes?

If I understand https://www.ecb.europa.eu/stats/ecb_statistics/escb/html/tab... correctly, Eurostat weights "actual rentals paid by tenants" at 6.1%. (edit: ECB, not Eurostat)

> none of it is house prices

This is the first mention of "house prices" in this thread. The index linked in the ancestor comment called itself "housing", not "house prices". Good for you if you insist on making the difference, but then if you make the difference you are not talking about the thing I was talking about, I think.

Also, some of it is house prices if house prices factor into the "owners equivalent rent", or is that made up out of thin air? Also, rising house prices cause rising rents, so indirectly they are represented anyway.