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by terminalhealth 2509 days ago
Could you explain what exactly makes this flamebaiting? I find the lack of modesty in the West at times appalling, so I can empathize with cultures with strict levels of modesty. It is also quite clear that women tend to behave more childlike and are less willing to take on responsibility. So it's not oppression, but cultural adaptations to biological realities. That's all.
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Gender and religion are two of the issues that people have the most painful history with and the most passionate feelings about. If you make pejorative general statements about those topics, you're certain to provoke others into quick and hostile replies. That's flamebaiting.

It sounds as though you believe you're simply describing facts, but that is bewilderingly far from true. To most readers here, saying things like "women tend to behave more childlike and are less willing to take on responsibility" is an extreme provocation. It's also a strangely limited and limiting statement, since we all know many people who would sooner make such a statement about men than about women.

You mentioned empathizing; my guess is that with a bit more empathizing, you wouldn't want to say such things any more. There's too much opportunity to hurt other people and start highly reactive, zero-communication arguments with them—especially on the internet, where the lack of any mitigating information (like tone of voice, gesture, or pre-existing relationship) guarantees that people will project into your words the worst and most monstrous interpretation they can bear, whether you meant them that way or not.

Would you mind taking a look at the site guidelines at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html? I think you'll find that several of them apply to threads like this, especially this one: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."

Thanks. Us full-time nerds sometimes need to be reminded that people have all this emotional baggage. It is actually scientifically clear that women are childlike, both in physique (relatively large eyes and heads, shorter, weaker) and behavior (crying, emotional instability, docility etc.). Admittedly, the effects of modesty have never been studied scientifically to my knowledge, but it seems very logical that tabooing sexual signals should reduce bad feelings due to sexual competition, envy, mate guarding etc.
> It is actually scientifically clear that women are childlike

Since I just asked you not to do this and explained why at length, it seems clear that you don't want to use this site as intended. I've banned the account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future.