[pdonis]

> There's lots of faulty reasoning going around society

Yes, indeed. But you forgot some key items:

* We have the ability to predict future climate change with enough accuracy to justify multi-trillion-dollar policy decisions.

* We have the ability to predict the economic and social consequences of future climate change with enough accuracy to justify multi-trillion-dollar policy decisions.

* "Renewable" energy does not include nuclear power.

* Renewable energy (not including nuclear power) can totally supply the required base load power for a first world standard of living for billions of people.

[perfunctory]

> "Renewable" energy does not include nuclear power.

Excuse my nitpicking, but renewable energy indeed excludes nuclear. By definition.

[pdonis]

> renewable energy indeed excludes nuclear. By definition.

It depends on whose definition. Breeder reactors count as renewable by some definitions. And I would argue that those definitions are more reasonable, particularly if whether something counts as "renewable" is used to determine government subsidies.

[extropy]

Carbon neutral energy is what we need.

Renewable energy defies physics.

[frankbreetz]

I guess people aren't worried about the sun burning out or us running out of wind. I think most people know we don't create energy from nothing