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by jonshariat 2509 days ago
I think the main differentiator for webflow is the user experience of their tool. Its very well done, intuitive, easy to use but doesn't oversimplify. If designing app front ends was this easy it would be awesome.

In my mind the hook into their hosting service is keeping them from their potential. If they had a stand alone tool I could use or a corp lvl tool, it could be big.

That being said, maybe there is more money in it for them to do it this way. But as a designer I see so much missed opportunity to unit design and code for front end work. (And eventually basic app functionalities)

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I agree. I have been a very regular user of Webflow for the past eight months and it has given me a 10x productivity boost despite being capable of coding it all by hand.

It does have serious limitations though. Many times I have needed to tell clients: "you can't do that because it's not (yet?) supported in Webflow". For example, you can't have "lists of lists" (i.e. nested maps or loops in JavaScript), which makes a huge number of designs virtually impossible. There are also random CSS properties, like vertical text alignment, missing from the Webflow interface, requiring custom coding, and they have arbitrary maximum file sizes for a number of assets. With Webflow, you either stay within their limitations, or you have to do a lot of things in custom code embeds.

Despite this, I've found that, even with Webflow's brutal price structures, working around those limitations in order to stay on Webflow's infrastructure has generally been worth the pain compared to spending a whole lot more time/money on doing things by hand, especially because my clients have a tendency to completely change their mind several times during the process. I'm not yet aware of anything with a shorter iteration time — there's CodePen, but its hosting features are even more limited than Webflow's...

Yeah, my main complaint about Webflow is the lack of a standalone tool. Last time I was designing for a client, I was travelling in east Africa, and simply couldn't afford to pay refill cards for the data needed to use Webflow online.

The closest competitor I've found that is standalone is Pnegrow. It is pretty cool, but still not nearly as intuitive and fast to learn as we flow, sadly.

Sorry for the typos (mobile keyboard, arrgh).

For completeness, the link to the Pinegrow editor:

https://pinegrow.com

Also, I seem to have forgot to point out that one requirement I was looking for was Linux support (Pinegrow runs fine on Xubuntu).

Dude, this is not a roaming tool...