[PavlovsCat]

> And then? Do they tear down the machines and all the "spooks" are tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail?

How is that relevant? I refuted the claim that nothing can be done.

[carapace]

For the sake of argument, let's say I'm wrong and you're right: ubiquitous surveillance is a genie that can be re-bottled.

You still aren't addressing my main point: How do we know, going forward, that no one is rubbing that lamp? Someone has to guard the lamp, eh?

Unless you're postulating some sort of post-historical world-wide Golden Age (which I am down to discuss!) there are still going to be people smart enough and wicked enough to use tech to spy and connive, etc.