[lm28469]

There are bigger issues that should be taken care of for sure, but the current food industry is a mess, especially the meat industry.

I personally don't think completely stopping eating meat makes sense, but surely there are steps between 300gr of meat everyday (avg us consumption) and no meat at all. Especially considering the amount of low quality ultra processed junk most people eat.

People bitch about not being able to have an impact on pollution all the time but stopping eating meat is probably the next best thing you can do after selling your car. And you're right in a way, it's not an excuse to give a free pass to other things.

[FerretFred]

> the current food industry is a mess

Made worse by the Supermarkets, who still insist on "nicely shaped" produce and farmers then have to landfill the "ugly" produce. One UK Supermarket is proudly advertising its "Wonky Veg" initiative, but then the idiots are then wrapping them up in apparently non-recyclable plastic. These people are IDIOTS and do not represent me as a consumer.

[parski]

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The produce that's slightly better than inedible is used for soups, salsa, jam, ice cream, juice, smoothies, stock, etc.

The produce that is ugly is sold at the grocery stores for poor people.

The reason you only see tier 1/2 shape and flavor produce is because you're priviledged.

Ugly produce is a non-issue, eating meat is non-sustainable and oil companies are killing our planet.

[jotm]

If we're talking individual contributions, here's a few easy ones: buy new equipment less often, paint roofs and walls white/silver/reflective, use gravity fed heating systems (more up to house builders), if you have a garden grow edible plants, maybe have a chicken coop, use a bicycle for short trips.

And yet, one trip on a yacht equals dozens of families doing the above. So people say, why should I suffer if those people don't?

[lm28469]

> So people say, why should I suffer if those people don't?

Depends on your moral compass I guess. If you think "suffering" is eating less meat and reducing your car/plane travels I have bad news for you though.

The more people engaged in these behaviors the better. Do you want to wait until the elite tell you to stop destroying the world (pro tip it's not going to happen as long as it's profitable) or do you want to tell the elite what to do ? The latter is only going to happen if a non negligible portion of the population decide to take action. And yes, it's going to be painful, we'll have to stop some of our habits, adapt others, &c. It'll just be paying the cost of living unsustainably for the last few decades.

[llukas]

Yacht? You meant jet?

[jotm]

Don't even get me started on those :)