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by katet 2509 days ago
Wow, again, last time I looked at keybase I just remember it being identity verification. Glad to see they're expanding on that.

I am - unfortunately - picky :D as you mention, they haven't released their server code and don't seem particularly interested in doing so (which is their full right). Good thread for that here: https://github.com/keybase/client/issues/6374

I get that some people aren't too fussed if the cryptography is done right, and you could reverse engineer the protocol and interop a la Amazon S3, but...yeah. Just not me I guess.

I'm new to the limitations you mentioned (# of devices, phone no. Auth, etc.). I'll need to take a good look before I jump ship. But first thought is I think I'll take those downsides as part of the current status quo of messaging apps for a fully open platform I can support and possibly get my parents to use without too much trouble (yep, my principles have priorities, lower ones get sacrificed when absolutely necessary ;))

(I lied about the phone sharing bit a little - Nextcloud sync is really good somehow, I just wish there was something like AirDrop for everyone else)

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Yeah, I totally get you. Basically on Signal, you have the same issue as on WhatsApp; phone number required, unique per account, you can ever only have one device at a time (desktop apps are not first-grade clients but sync to phone), and all the privacy and other security issues that come with that...

I managed to get a lot of my non-geek friends over to Signal, but if things don't change I think I will switch preference to Keybase soon in lack of better alternatives.

It's unfortunate that there's no great implementation of federated IM today. XMPP is a mess and Matrix has a long way to go when it comes to that part, but from what I can tell they have a good vision and might just be able to pull it off so I am keeping a close eye on it.

Then we have Secure ScuttleButt, which I find very interesting and would love to see mature.

> Matrix has a long way to go when it comes to that part, but from what I can tell they have a good vision and might just be able to pull it off so I am keeping a close eye on it.

Matrix is pretty usable for me and a bunch of my friends and family these days. The clients are getting pretty good as well.