[rfugger]

Any political voting system will need a trusted third party to run the voter registration/identity system, so I doubt the lack of practical homomorphic encryption is blocking this. There are other voter-verifiable systems that don't rely on HE for trustworthy counting:

https://www.chaum.com/publications/AccessibleVoterVerifiabil...

The major problem with online voting is that people can be coerced into voting against their wishes outside the watchful eye of election authorities. This may be worth the increase in voting ease, but it's where the real debate is.

[k__]

How does online voting differ from mail voting?

The only difference I see, is, the mail is sent via the postal service and the online vote is sent via my personal computer and internet connection.

To get around this, the government could issue verified voting tablets that are locked down and use secured connections.

Otherwise, people can force me to vote different without the authorities noticing already.

[pessimizer]

I don't know that there is a difference, and I'm finding the fact that it's becoming more widespread a problem. There could already be a nontrivial number of coerced or paid voters. Voting by mail should be a tiny percentage of the vote, largely consisting of people who are overseas. Instead, we're starting to see a lot of elections decided by mail-ins.

[jcoffland]

> How does online voting differ from mail voting?

You cannot easily encrypt your voting information when sent by regular mail. If you have a unique unforgeable id, like a private key, and a secure voting device then your vote can be submitted and counted securely online. Granted, you could print your encrypted vote and mail it in.

[jcoffland]

> The major problem with online voting is that people can be coerced into voting against their wishes

The main problem is guaranteeing one vote per eligible voter.

Coercion is a related but smaller problem. It's much harder to coerce most of the people most of the time than it is to stuff the ballot.

[throwaway542134]

Worth mentioning that ballot stuffing is a problem with the people counting the votes/running the polls, not the voters. So it would be more accurate to say that the problem is preventing the entity that organizes the vote from accessing discrete votes.

[dark_glass]

I don't think that is a major problem, unless I am misunderstanding. Oregon for instance is all vote by mail, outside the watchful eye of any government authority.

[irrational]

What do you mean by "outside the watchful eye of any government authority"?

Do you just mean the ballots are filled out at home where a government authority is not looking over my shoulder? Because everything else is controlled by the government. The ballots and booklets are printed by the government (who authorize what can be on the ballot and in the booklet), are mailed by a government agency, are checked by a government authority, etc.

[pessimizer]

If anyone has the ability to confirm your vote, either without you or through you, you can be compelled or paid for it.

Imagine constructing a system that can thwart a abusive, tyrannical father who insists that his wife and children vote for a particular candidate (to make it concrete.) If you can get past him, your voting system passes the first test. Now imagine someone is offering $50 if you vote in a particular way. If there's no way to figure out how someone would claim it, it passes the second test.

The abusive father can literally just fill out all of his family's ballots, and the $50 could be claimed by filling out the ballot in front of the buyer. You could thwart this with allowing multiple votes but only accepting the first, but then the father or buyer could just have the ballots filled out immediately at the first legal moment.

I don't know that it's a thing that can be done without totally private environment around the voter and the record; meaning that the actions of the voter cannot be observed.

[irrational]

Those are cause for concern, but let's be realistic, the percentage of how many coercive ballots must be very low, I'd guess less than 1%. I think the pros of mail in voting (getting a greater percentage of the population to vote because they can do so at their leisure, don't have to take time off of work, don't have to stand in lines, etc.) outweigh the cons (such as potential coercion or selling of votes).

[bonzini]

There are countries, or regions, or municipalities, or neighborhoods where the number of coerced ballots can easily be 50% or more. Voting by email is a complete no-no in those situations.

There are also countries where turnout is consistently above 70% and there is no mail voting. In the US the obstacles to voting are not having to go to a polling station: voter registration due to not having a federal ID, voting on a Tuesday rather than during the weekend, gerrymandering due to political bodies bring able to affect the redistricting process, and so on.

[kosievdmerwe]

It's hard to look over someone's shoulder to make sure they're making the "right" vote if they're in a public voting booth.

[dark_glass]

I was guessing that the OP meant literally looking over your shoulder. If you fill out the ballot at home, it is feasible you could be coerced to vote a particular way.

I don't think this is currently happening, so I don't think it is a major issue.

[jhayward]

I hope not.

https://sos.oregon.gov/blue-book/Pages/state/executive/elect...