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by amfsn 2509 days ago
People generally don't care about LE reading what they say, so no. People used whatsapp before e2e and will keep using it after e2e.
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Maybe your "people" are cool with LE reading their salty messages to significant others, or hot take political commentary, but all the "people" I know expect privacy as good responsible citizens should.
One might reasonably assume the "bad guys" they're trying to catch would go elsewhere though, if they have any sense. So then you're just left with innocent people to spy on.
>So then you're just left with innocent people to spy on.

Those are who they want to spy on anyway.

For serious criminals, terrorists etc they have other tools, banning commercial encryption wont help with those...

You'd be surprised to learn how fucking stupid most bad guys are.
We catch lots of stupid bad guys.

Smart bad guys get away with it.

Cynical and correct observation, which I know will get downvoted because it goes against the mantra of this website:

Being able to read whatsapp would help us catch many more stupid bad guys.

Smart bad guys will always be able to get away with it. That doesn't mean we should stop trying to catch stupid bad guys.

What if catching the stupid bad guys just means the smart bad guys take their place? Like a spray that kills 99% of bacteria, all you're potentially doing is applying a selective pressure towards being more technically smart.

And in this case, being more technically smart might just mean clicking the link to the E2E encrypted web chat site rather than the server-to-client encrypted site. Perhaps, though, the government will start banning websites that offer E2E encrypted chat, and require hosting companies to not let you host such apps yourself.