[ilaksh]

I've been coding since I was a kid, for about 33 years. I actually think they are right about all of this stuff.

Including the part about combining everything together into a holistic solution.

It sounds like a terrific idea. Unfortunately most people seem to hate good ideas. Especially if they represent a significant change from the status quo.

And programmers are afraid to touch anything that's "easy" or moves away from colorful text representing complex obscure systems -- because sadly that is actually the only definition of programming that has stuck. And if there isn't enough of that stuff, programmers are worried they may be mistaken for users.

But maybe even though its a structured editor that makes things easier, it will still look like code and "count" psychologically as programming.

Anyway maybe it will actually become popular. Who knows. Good luck.

[ozim]

Did you had any experience with "low code" platforms? It is all easy until you hit that one case where it stops beeing easy. The same with image oriented languages. Maybe a lot of projects will profit from such solution, but for such projects that can be done "low code" you don't need developers. There has to be culture shift. If you need developers to operate your "low code", "low infrastructure", as business person you are doing something wrong.

[verinus]

While I also long for more powerful frameworks / libs that lighten the burden of infrastructure code and other boiler plate code having it all dominated by one company, specially a small startup is a grave problem for adoption.

I think representing programs as text is the simplest form of programs that can be used by humans and computers. And that's why is has stuck.

[bendbro]

I think that is a consequence of "culture" being an important deciding factor in software engineering decisions. Culture causes a company to value "agile development" over "waterfall" or "strong-typing" over "weak-typing" without having solid definitions or objective arguments backing their reasons. I would like to see the day when culture is no longer a deciding factor in my work, but I don't think it's coming. People don't share foundational beliefs, and even if they did, the gap between reasoning from their foundational beliefs to their base programming beliefs is vast. Even if we all simultaneously underwent a shared spiritual experience that transformed all our foundational beliefs to a shared common set, we'd still need to reason our way upward to beliefs about programming, and that would be fraught with error. So even in a field as black and white (or red and black, if that's your preference) as programming, we will still have arguments, there will always be naysayers, we'll have conservatives who refuse to stop practicing COBOL, progressives wasting time on Frilly-BottomJavascriptContainerLib-2.0, and we'll all still be wasting time trying to get Intellij to build in our dev environment properly.