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by AWildC182 2516 days ago
Gotta love the people who think they're real estate geniuses for buying cheap houses near an airport then realizing the airport is loud so they try to close it.

Don't buy a house off the end of a runway unless you want to listen to my 230HP of bug smashing power...

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An issue we hit recently was our place, while near-ish an airport (well, a couple of miles away), didn't have much issues. Then several years after we bought, they changed their software I guess (thats the story anyway) which decided all planes should go over our house, and at much lower altitude than they historically would.

So literally one day everything is fine, then the next its hell. Then people started saying "Well its your fault for buying near an airport". That wasn't great :(

You can talk to the FAA and the airport about it, though it helps to get educated about how it all works and come at it from the point of view of trying to help keep everyone happy.

Start with what type of airport is it here: https://skyvector.com/

Is it Bravo (big blue circles around it, major commercial airport), Charlie (medium maroon circles, large secondary commercial), Delta (small single dark blue dashed circle, small controlled airport), or uncontrolled (no circle or dashed magenta, local GA airport)?

If it's one of the first three, see if you can find the Standard Instrument Departures (SIDs) and Standard Terminal Arrival Routes (STARs) and see where they put aircraft in relation to you and at what altitudes (underlined altitudes are minimum, overlined are maximum).

https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/digital_... (can also find them on skyvector for your airport)

Also try to see if they've been changed lately as this is the most likely culprit.

If it's an uncontrolled airport, try talking to them about noise abatement and see if you might be able to work something out.

Santa Monica, California.
This is just another type of arbitrage. Buy up property that's undervalued due to a nuisance, make the property more appealing by resolving the nuisance, then sell the property for a profit.

This isn't fundamentally different from fixing up some old house.

Well except that arguably fixing your house screws nobody whereas shutting down a small airport or racetrack screws everyone that formerly used it.
Shutting down a nuisance is doing the entire neighborhood a favor, and that land can be repurposed to provide more housing in an area that sorely needs it.

The airports and race tracks were almost certainly built in the middle of nowhere originally. They can relocate some place that's currently a middle of nowhere. Airports and race tracks should exist in areas where land is cheap and abundant, not in places where lots of people want to live.

The land owners make a huge profit from selling the land to developers, current residence see their property values go up, and more people have the opportunity to live closer to work.

Sometimes things have to change for the better.

If people complaining about the nuisance compensate the airport for the cost and the trouble moving somewhere else, then sure, I'm all for it.
Or we could zone appropriately for higher density housing to slow the spread of urban sprawl and not have to rebuild our airports every few years because people are incapable of doing basic research on their investments?
Who's saying to rebuild these every few years? Most of these small airports are 40+ years old. Cities change a lot over those time periods.

Why not both zone for higher density and get rid of small urban airports? Airports are antithetical to high-density living.

Other than causing hundreds of people to lose their jobs?