[flattone]

im an in debt, highschool dropout, unemployed, and ill biy this on credit just to take a stand. i cant wait to set my google phone on fire. will be like finally ridding myself of a disease.

get it together man. priorities. the value of an old phone stands up to forcing cash in meaningful directions? forget my wallet/welfare/bills, badd things have to stop at any cost.

[google2342]

Don't do that to yourself. Better to take care of yourself than buying a new phone.

[Tepix]

What's wrong with installing Lineage OS on your google phone? If you stick to F-Droid you're pretty good in terms of open source. There are still a few binary blobs that you can't avoid of course. Those may contain some backdoors or bugs that will make you vulnerable, however you will no longer send your data to Google etc. all the time. Which is a huge difference.

[pizzazzaro]

Lineage dropped support for a LOT of phones in the last 6 months.

When you show up, looking to do the legwork for a specific model, the community directs you to the donate button instead...

If Librem can keep their repos current? Im down to switch from a Lineage-deprecated phone.

Besides, a phone running a kernel that isn't 3 years old and terribly out of date? Vulnerable to Spectre, Rowhammer, and a host of other script-kiddie-hackable holes? So what if its "mine" for $200 less when it isnt mine and patched?

Apple did one thing well with iPhone that Android didnt - they kept themselves as a single point of accountability for how the phone runs, how it updates, how security patches get distributed.

A FLOSS phone needs to mimick that success.

[colechristensen]

The best advice when you want to help is to help yourself first when you need it.

[inawarminister]

For us, I think it's better to buy a PinePhone instead. It's targeted to be $200.

Not as full-featured as Librem5 is, not as developmentally supported. But that's what the open source ecosystem is for, no?

[0] https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/