[joshuamorton]

Then complain to the companies you license software from for continuing to build on a soft-deprecated platform. Don't complain to developers for ignoring a platform whose deprecation was announced over a decade ago.

And certainly don't badmouth people who are using the not-deprecated tool as being ok with unstable infra.

[kgraves]

> Then complain to the companies you license software from for continuing to build on a soft-deprecated platform.

You think we haven't been doing this? We had a representative from one of these vendors come in to discuss their roadmap, they told us straight up that "We still intend to keep using Python 2".

> Don't complain to developers for ignoring a platform whose deprecation was announced over a decade ago.

Yes, because web dev is the hot tech stuff now, nobody wants to work in a boring sector, so they are not willing to change anything, cycle continues.

> And certainly don't badmouth people who are using the not-deprecated tool as being ok with unstable infra.

I read this sentence twice and I still don't understand what you're trying to say, clarify?

[joshuamorton]

> Yes, because web dev is the hot tech stuff now, nobody wants to work in a boring sector, so they are not willing to change anything, cycle continues.

Change what? You're asking for...what exactly? People to provide support for a deprecated platform? That just encourages those companies you're complaining about to continue to use python2 and further splits the ecosystem. No!

[kgraves]

> Change what? You're asking for...what exactly? People to provide support for a deprecated platform?

Instead of trying to put words in my mouth and being hostile, try to address my concerns. What I mean is that nobody that is a dev wants to work in a slow boring sector, Which means no work gets done to Python 3 on the vendor side hence, studios like ours keep developing on it.

Nothing changes and no choice other than leaving.