[cpncrunch]

You should look at functional movement disorder, and catatonic depression. I'm not making any comment on your own situation, only on your comment that pushing yourself to the point where you couldn't stand up proves it wasn't psychiatric.

Typically people with ME/CFS/FMD get worse if they push themselves. The key to recovery is rest first and foremost. The symptoms of FMD seem to be a protection mechanism by the brain, and pushing through the symptoms just make it worse.

[wavepruner]

I won't. You don't know what you're talking about unless you have this illness and have a minimum of PhD level of understanding of biochemistry and enzymology.

I've cured myself. Who have you cured? No one I'm sure.

[cpncrunch]

Yes I have had it, and am fully recovered now thanks.

[wavepruner]

Then perhaps we are talking about two separate illnesses.

[cpncrunch]

Definitely not. You are just being closed minded, incredibly rude, and dont understand how the brain actually works.

[wavepruner]

Because I don't take kindly to people telling me that the excruciating pain, bone fractures from gentle use, and fascia disintegration I had was really just my brain amplifying pain signals for no reason.

[cpncrunch]

I guess in your misplaced anger you completely missed my initial comment of "I'm not making any comment on your own situation". And nowhere did I comment on "bone fractures from gentle use", which has not been mentioned until now and is clearly not a functional symptom.

[wavepruner]

But yes, pain is how your brain protects your body. Pain means you need to rest before your tissues literally rip to pieces from a structural failure.

[cpncrunch]

No, pain isnt always due to structural or physical damage. That is what functional pain is. In many ways it is much worse than physical pain.

[wavepruner]

I do not think this hypothesis is correct. What evolutionary purpose would functional pain serve?

To me, it seems it's a theory to compensate for medical imaging technology that has far too low resolution. Doctors hate admitting that they don't know what's wrong, so instead they claim that the patient is crazy in politically correct terminology with an excessive number of syllables.

Structural tissue damage starts at a molecular level that cannot be seen by medical imaging technology. The fascia alone is too thin to be imaged at all, and so is completely ignored.

Biochemists have delineated in explicit detail how tissue breaks down at the molecular level. And they can reverse it. We need to start listening to them more.

[cpncrunch]

There is pretty clear evidence from neuroscience that pain has a significant emotional component. The evolutionary benefit is to having an emotional component is that it makes it less likely that the animal will try to override the pain.

[wavepruner]

Yes I agree with that theory, but I don't see how that proves that pain is completely decoupled from physical damage, and just randomly happens to some people solely because they are upset or "disturbed".

[cpncrunch]

I never said that.