[BoorishBears]

I haven't completely missed any point, you just seem to be insistent on missing mine.

My point is the way that Tesla has gained this, using consumer vehicles as testbeds, not just for collection, but for actual running code in charge of managing peoples lives is utter nonsense and traditional automakers are choosing to stay away from it.

I mean, this isn't even a hypothetical, we've literally seen it happen, AP regressions where a lane transition your car was taking fine one day suddenly sends your car aimed at a concrete barrier!

You can call them slow, or whatever you want, but thank god the real auto manufacturers are not so flippant about the value of human life.