[clouddrover]

> i think we might both be right

No, you claimed other car companies won't have over-the-air software updates which is false. You claimed Bosch controls automative software which is also false. Bosch also makes use of a lot of open source software:

https://oss.bosch-cm.com/

[elisharobinson]

yes i amended my claim after reading the article about auto-Linux(i didn't know about it thanks by the way), but i checked out the Bosch oss and its not what i would call useful maybe i need to look into it a bit more, From what i have seen so far the license disclosure is out of date for few vendors ie, not yet updated since jan'18 , package disclosure show there may be some vulnerable outdated packages on the platform today, its almost like a attack vector brochure. So there may still be cars out there which have these software platforms and they wouldnt be able to update them unless bosch updates it and you patch it through copyrighted update tool which bosch owns , in a service center licensed by Bosch, and your telling me bosch doesnt have a strangle hold of the auto software market, if anything this oss disclosure reaffirms it .the fact that some manager thought this oss discloure sure seems like a good idea is exactly the kinda thing a non tech manager guy would do in a car company.

[clouddrover]

Here are examples of the software for some upcoming cars. Prove that Bosch "controls" the software for these cars:

- Mercedes EQC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JTew1D5Tk8

- Audi e-tron GT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvNw15W_EK8

- Honda e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEKq8jmckz0

- Volkswagen ID.3: https://www.engadget.com/2019/07/14/vw-id-3-interior-reveale...

If you can't prove it then simply admit you don't know what you're talking about.