[0xfaded]

The reliance on facebook where I live now in Denmark is disgusting. I lived in SV for 4 years, and basically any information of importance reached me by word-of-mouth or mailing list. Craigslist is also used and awesome.

Worst is that information meant for public dissemination, like training times or open event details, are now de facto private and require login. I've gone from logging in once every 3 months to once a week. AND messenger on mobile requires mbasic.facebook.com. /rant

[KozmoNau7]

FB Messenger is the standard messaging service in Denmark, nothing else comes close. At least for everyone I know, it has completely replaced anything else they previously used, and ordinary text messages are seen as old-fashioned and obsolete.

I've tried to get people to use Signal instead, but nobody cares enough to make the switch. "Everyone else is on Messenger, and I have an account already" is the most common reasoning.

[dobleboble]

I've seen a shift towards Slack and Discord, which seems good.

[intsunny]

I think part of the problem here is that the UI/UX of Signal (and Telegram) are just not very good.

Both are off-putting experiences and in turn do little to motivate people to switch to them.

[dgellow]

Seriously, Telegram UI/UX isn't good? That's the best user experience I know for a chat application and the main reason why I use it.

[unimpressive]

Yeah, hearing TG's UI/UX described as not good made me do a double take. It's the best UI I've ever seen in a chat app, and I've probably used at least a dozen by now.

[KozmoNau7]

I find the UI/UX of Signal to be good enough that I used it as my default messaging app, even though I only have a few contacts who use(d) Signal.

It took until Oreo/Pie for the stock messaging app to become equally good or better, and by then none of my contacts bothered with using Signal anymore. It's now 0% Signal, 0.1% text messages, 0.1% WhatsApp, 99.8% FB Messenger, which is really depressing.

[dannyw]

You can't export chats on Signal iOS, which sucks.

[marssaxman]

What does it mean to "export chats" and why would you want to do it?

[dannyw]

1. Switch to a new phone. 2. Want to find something previously messaged to someone. Say, a link. Or find dates of something. 3. Cannot.

[damnyou]

It's about when you get a new phone. You can't move your Signal conversations to the new phone.

[jefftk]

Open event details should be public without logging in. I help run an event series that has our website link to FB for per-event details, and no account is needed.