[snuze]

As someone in the industry (with domain knowledge), I can tell you that you are oversimplifying the problem and ignoring Tesla’s advantage and leadership in this space. Other manufacturers have to account for legacy systems/designs, it is not as trivial as you make it sound.

[BoorishBears]

I even state that I'm oversimplifying the problem.

Other manufacturers do have to account for legacy systems, you don't need to be in the industry to understand the relationships manufacturers have with companies like Bosch and know they're not in full control of their destiny.

But their advantage is not a "let's ignore dumpster fire financials quarter of quarter to earn them a multi billion dollar market cap" big.

Tesla is not worth 42B dollars because manufacturers can't figure out OTA updates, and the fact other manufacturers don't have OTA updates should be a rounding error when you list advantages that warrant that market cap. It doesn't take any insider knowledge to know that, just common sense, and for far too long people have been ignoring that in preference for TSLA hype.

I got out last year during the 420 nonsense so honestly I don't know why I'm even bothering with all this, the fact anyone needs more than that to see TSLA is not worth your time is interesting. Anything from that point onward was just icing on the bear cake for me.

[mavhc]

Everyone else not doing updates is the symptom of the larger issue, everyone else is a slow moving hardware company that outsources their software. Tesla is a software company first. And software beats hardware whenever you're doing something complex.

Plus lack of legacy self competition, no one else wants to cannibalise their other sales, and no one else has really invested in batteries. Most other car companies can't make enough EV cars to fulfill demand. They're all out of stock until next year because they make so few of them.

[BoorishBears]

Treating safety critical software like a web server is not being fast moving, it's being reckless.

We've seen regressions in AP behavior.

Situations where a route that was safe yesterday will send your Tesla into a concrete barrier if you don't catch it

Simply. 100%. Unacceptable.

Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I do not want to be on the road with these people. I did not sign away my life to be someone's SDC test environment after all.

[mavhc]

Are you referring to https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/b36x27/its_bac... ?

Not good, and they fixed it again.

They should probably put a warning like: Warning: Autosteer is intended for use only on highways and limited-access roads with a fully attentive driver. When using Autosteer, hold the steering wheel and be mindful of road conditions and surrounding traffic. Do not use Autosteer on city streets, in construction zones, or in areas where bicyclists or pedestrians may be present. Never depend on Autosteer to determine an appropriate driving path. Always be prepared to take immediate action. Failure to follow these instructions could cause damage, serious injury or death.

[ReptileMan]

This is a glorified bumper car. Why does it needs updates at all? It should be KISS... instead they complicate for the sake of complication.

[mavhc]

Mostly because people ask for features. And to support new charging stuff. Everyone loves Sentry mode, automatic video recordings of people damaging your car while it's parked.

Then there's "entertain people while charging" stuff.

And then there's autopilot stuff. NoA, Stop light detection, emergency lane departure avoidance, automatic lane changing, conditional speed limits (eg slower in winter)

[gamblor956]

Tesla has to account for legacy systems and designs, since they refresh models all the time without even bothering with distinct ("set in stone") model identifiers (like year). For example, there is no such thing as a "2018 Model 3" as there were multiple variants released over the year with changes over the year, not including the range-based option packages.

In fact, Tesla's legacy systems are actually a disadvantage perspective, since they have to account for a much larger range of hardware configurations than do legacy automakers.