[mbeex]

> People avoid SV/USA due to the current President

_some_ people do. Others allow themselves different opinions to this president and even to their prospects in SV

> and London due to the Brexit uncertainity

True

> before Johnson drives everything into the ground

... but also here there are different opinions concerning the nature of this uncertainty

[HeWhoLurksLate]

Aaaand some people care more about their life than they do their country's politics, thankfully.

IMO, politics and stuff is necessary, but I really wish we could argue /debate respectfully without the damn flame wars everywhere of late. It seriously puts me off.

[mschuster91]

The point is that the current Trump administration has a massive problem with immigration - that may or may not have consequences if you want to emigrate to the US. Or Brexit - if Johnson really delivers a no deal Brexit then UK economy is getting fucked over hard plus the right of free movement for EU citizens vanishes so you can get deported overnight.

Politics at this scale are life changing matters, and unfortunately with both the US and the UK governments it is clear that they are not run by competent people with a plan but by people who literally don't have any fixed opinion except nationalism - and that means that, as an immigrant, you're rock bottom of the ladder.

[mbeex]

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but other people may make a difference in what "is clear" to them.