[Karunamon]

To go full devil's advocate, that's because they're not doing much that's new. The space race of decades past and everything surrounding it was pushing human frontiers in science, technology, and exploration. Lots of that technology found its way into everyday use.

As far as I can tell, the launch technology here (the GLSV) is bog standard, the mission is unmanned, and it's using a rover that's less sophisticated than Curiosity. The ground being covered here is well-trodden.

Lest anyone think I'm pooh-poohing the achievement here, I'm not. Human spaceflight is still in its infancy, and being the 5th country to make a soft landing on the moon is a big deal, and a practical demonstration of a lot of technical prowess.

The problem is.. it appears to be mostly a demonstration at the end of the day. Is mapping the surface of the moon and detailing its composition more or less important than lifting 90 million people out of poverty? I know what my opinion is here, but I think it's something that reasonable people can disagree on.

[dwaltrip]

> Is mapping the surface of the moon and detailing its composition more or less important than lifting 90 million people out of poverty?

This question assumes a lot. It's not an either / or. In fact, they may be mutually beneficial, where each effort boosts the other.

The efforts for both endeavors are also not completely interchangeable. We can't productively redirect all resources going into the space program towards poverty reduction. Perhaps some of it may be redirected productively, but most of it cannot.

I understand you may already get this, but I think it is worth repeating.

[Karunamon]

The efforts are not, but the resources are. Space launches aren't cheap after all. The entire Chandraraayan program cost something in the neighborhood of US$145 million. When you've got a poverty/homeless problem of that magnitude, I think it is reasonable to ask how and why funds are being prioritized the way they are.

[desc]

Indeed.

Part of the issue is that 'humanity' is divided by borders, and countries do not generally share information and capabilities freely. So the fact that the US has achieved something means very little to other countries beyond 'this is possible to do'. Doing it themselves may still be a significant milestone in their own industrial development.

I wish it were otherwise, but I have a horrible feeling that the only workable alternative is a single global government, which I'm not convinced is a better option in the long run...

[gpderetta]

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

Arguably India is teaching itself to fish which is even better.

[fastball]

Arguably the future of humanity is more important than 90 million present day humans.

[cameronbrown]

An incredibly cold and privileged view. How is feeding/clothing a hundred million people any less valuable than what India's space programme is doing? You say that the "future of humanity" is what's being progressed - well for all you know the next Einstein/Feynman/Tesla could be in that group and his/her potential is going to be wasted.

[fastball]

Industrializing / colonizing space is the future of humanity. Another country investing in space gets humanity closer to that future.

Einsteins don't manifest in rural Indian villages the moment you feed and clothe the local populace. It takes a lot more than a full belly to contribute in a meaningful way, and India isn't getting there any time soon. Plus, it doesn't matter if you surface the next Einstein/Feynman/Tesla if there are no forward-thinking projects for them to work on.

[Karunamon]

>Another country investing in space gets humanity closer to that future.

Not unless they're doing something new, they don't. This is what I meant by "the ground here is well-trodden". Getting to the moon is within the reach of any nation with a modern space program, the US just hasn't done it for a long while since there hasn't been any pressing need (political or research) for them to do so.

[fastball]

You start proving you can do things that have already been done and then you move on to new things.