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by save_ferris 2533 days ago
You didn’t mention all of the new features coming to HTTP 2 that will alleviate network performance issues (prefetch, multiplex connections, etc.)

I’ve found many sites that use frameworks like react to be much more user hostile, particularly from a performance and accessibility standpoint. The reddit redesign comes to mind. It’s so much slower now than it used to be on a browser (perhaps they’re intentionally doing this to push people to their mobile app), that it’s noticeably reduced the quality of the experience.

I guess I just don’t understand how people see page reloads with proper caching as unacceptable from a performance standpoint compared some JavaScript app maintaining a virtual DOM, which is also likely regularly communicating with a server.
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digitaltrees 2533 days ago
Same with TechCrunch, every time I visit I am reminded how frustrating react sites can be compared to server rendered pages with all the flicker, slow page reveal, and odd navigation it introduced.
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rhizome 2533 days ago
Late loading artifacts is all the fault of JS, not server-side rendering. Not sure what you mean by "odd navigation."
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digitaltrees 2533 days ago
To close an article there is a x button and back swipe is disabled. I agree that flicker is introduced by Javascript. That is what I was saying. Might be ok for an app, but a content driven site seems like it should stick to the concept of pages where navigation is like turning a page. Just seems like server rendering fits that mental model better. Not sure why react even makes sense for a blog.
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ng12 2532 days ago
It doesn't, but blogs aren't built to present content they're built to sell advertisements and collect data. That's much easier with an SPA than a SSR app.
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rhizome 2531 days ago
they're built to sell advertisements and collect data. That's much easier with an SPA than a SSR app

How easier? By dint of additional JS that an SSR doesn't have/need? Not sure how pulling a header nav (or any cell/element) from a server on pageload plays into that, but even today I've watched sites (plural) loading, pushing loaded parts all over the page for 30sec until everything settles down. Maybe blogs aren't quite so affected by this set of popular dark- and anti-patterns, but even so the post is almost always the last thing to load. Presumably, the monetization and data collection takes precedence over all else.

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