[lanrh1836]

I find it all so bizarre. Everything from how big the font size is in the left nav, to the ordering of the nav items, to how the feed and right nav scroll together (can’t see the top of the right nav if you scroll down the main feed) to how huge tweets with images appear (can only see 2 tweets if they contain images on a massive desktop screen) to the fact that you cant resize the left or right nav on your own...

[Benjammer]

What's bizarre about it? It looks a lot like the reddit redesign to me, and seems to be focused on emphasizing sponsored content more, if I had to speculate.

Large-picture tweets taking up a lot of space means that large-picture interstitial ads and promoted tweets also take up lots of space. I would guess also that scrolling the right-hand column gives a lot more automatic eyeball space to trending stuff in sections below the fold, and is no longer constrained to just screen height for what everyone will usually see there. Who's going to willfully scroll down the trending column of promoted stuff separately from the main feed?

The left-nav stuff seems much more straightforward for new users, even if it's a useless change for long time users who already know how to operate the site.

[lawn]

> It looks a lot like the reddit redesign to me

Which was also widely hated.

[Benjammer]

Totally. I also don't think the new Reddit looks "bizarre" though. Not much about it is strange or surprising.

[jhalt]

> It looks a lot like the reddit redesign to me

Not at all. Reddit has one nav across the top and side and a large auto-expanding area for the main content. Twitter desktop now has navs on both sides which take about roughly the same amount of real estate as the main content area, which is not auto-expanding.

[dorfsmay]

But at least you can go to old.reddit.com for a sane view.

[Existenceblinks]

The "display" setting is a good start. Give me options to hide the left-nav, the trend, and I'll be cool with it.

[Mindwipe]

And reduce the font size from a minimum of 14 down to a minimum of, say, 6.

And for it to also reduce the menus. And for the site to actually use horizontal space. And for the site not to insert different scrollbars over the menus if you're using it in a small window. And for to let us reduce the negative space padding by 99.99999%.

Gah. It's so, so fucking bad. Twitter have the worst design team, and literally everything they have done for a decade has been garbage.

[Benjammer]

Why in the world would they give users the option to hide trending stuff?

[dorfsmay]

If I want my content based on others' opinion, I go to Reddit.

What's the point to follow accounts if you're not guaranteed to see their content, and not in the prefer they intended to?

[Existenceblinks]

Because, if, enough numbers of users want it, seriously. Also it's still an option, not a default.

[thiagomgd]

because what's trending never interests me, and possibly, other users?

[kccqzy]

It's just another example of the latest trend in UI/UX "experts" trying to create an "experience" for users, instead of letting the user create their own experience through customization of the UI.

[overcast]

People generally don't know what they want. Expecting anything but a small percentage to customize their UI, let alone even know or care that feature exists, is optimistic at best. Think outside of the HN bubble, the other 99.999% of people that use these products.

[kccqzy]

It's not the HN bubble. There are very real users who want to do small customizations to the UI. Sometimes it's as simple as, in the case of GP, this sidebar is taking up too much space and I want to reduce it. Or it can be, let me choose how I want this list view to be sorted, and remember it. Or, this button on the toolbar is for a feature I never use, and let me hide it. All of this is incredibly common in well-designed Cocoa apps, but not at all in web apps or mobile apps (including iOS-builtin apps).

[astrodust]

Sometimes ugly is functional. Sometimes worse is better. Sometimes designers don't know what they're doing as they chase after some idealistic goal that's detached from reality.

Functional design is sometimes not good design. It's pragmatic.

This redesign is hot garbage. Take it out back and shoot it.

[jhalt]

Agree - 99% of what I do is read tweets, but now they take up only ~33% of my screen's real estate, and are outweighed visually by large distracting content on either side.

[Mindwipe]

To paraphrase Steve Jobs, "What's this supposed to do? Let me read tweets? So why doesn't it fucking do that???"