[asnyder]

Believe it or not the self-selecting group represented on Hacker News is absolutely not representative of the developer majority.

Furthermore, it's very unsettling that even on hacker news there's this prevalent anti-PHP attitude. With the release of PHP 5.3, and the current maturity of the numerous frameworks there's never been a better time to use PHP.

[KaeseEs]

That there hasn't ever been a better time to use PHP doesn't make it a good time to use PHP, cf. http://vimeo.com/17675268

[geebee]

I have no trouble believing this. I should probably have said "even on hacker news polls, Java and PHP get a substantial showing..."