[s9w]

I didn't say that ideal exists anywhere. The US certainly gets much closer than any European countries I know.

Many German citizens have been raided, sued, fined, jailed or otherwise silenced because they criticized the current government, in particular the political decisions since 2015. Many people are opposed to that. And most of them are not of the group you mentioned.

[zaarn]

I know plenty of people who critized the government for decisions around and after 2015, publicly even, and none of them were raided, sued, fined or jailed for it.

Maybe these people are actually in the groups and just employ the standard tactic of claiming to be a lone wolf when asked.

[s9w]

> I know plenty of people who critized the government for decisions around and after 2015, publicly even, and none of them were raided, sued, fined or jailed for it.

That doesn't mean that these things don't happen. Just one recent example:

https://www.einprozent.de/blog/meinungsfreiheit/friedlicher-...

or this:

https://www.vice.com/de/article/8xe7jg/kuchen-tv-volksverhet...

[zaarn]

Your first link goes to a blog that's operated by a known right-wing extremist who is part of the Neuen Rechten and the AfD. The second link is some youtuber doing something that is either extremely dumb or very right-wing and rightfully earned him a visit at the nearest courthouse.

[s9w]

You are free to find other sources, the facts remain the same. I can't talk about (these) political parties without being banned.

If you really think that the guy deserves an unjust sentence for being right-wing, then I'm afraid of people like you. That is exactly what this argument was about: Political opposition being silenced.

[zaarn]

I'm not afraid of right wing people, I just despite right wing extremists. I don't have to look for any sources, you have to convinve me if anything. People rightfully get just sentences for following a party focused on the very same politics that plunged Europe into a second world war.

[s9w]

So you do want to punish people for simply being the (democratically elected) political opposition, hence proving my point. I think I'll run the other way now.