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by markc 2523 days ago
I suppose you heard from the right wing echo chamber that Tlaib called for the destruction of Israel and just passed that lie along uncritically as though it were a call for bombing or overthrow. Do your homework. It was actually a call for unification.

I showed that the accusation "hates the US" is an simplistic and empty claim without details. Provide some evidence of this hate. Of course I don't accept claims of patriotism uncritically. I listen, and understand, and then judge. You should try it.

You fail to admit your error in trusting Trump's claim about polls and resort instead to profane insults. You don't like their politics, fine. Criticize that.

How about proving you're not such a big Trump supporter. What don't you like? You downplay his racism, repeat his claims, and puff up his resume. Or is that just defensiveness?

Regarding censorship and gestapo tactics - I was not aware that the left was constantly denigrating and the free press and occasionally threatening it. I wasn't aware that the left was caging people without trial.

I will give you one thing. Hate of Trump is indeed off the charts. He's blamed for everything under the sun and some of it is ridiculous. Of course that's irritating. You must realize that Obama experienced it too. Irrational partisans should be ignored. They are uninterested in rational discourse.

Trump's racism is a complicated thing. He's not a neo-nazi style racist who openly proclaims his white supremacy. He seems to like and admire many successful black folk. He may not even believe in the inherent superiority of all whites, so I understand anger over simplistic attacks that assume racism is a binary. It is not.

Don't you see though, that Trump uses the coded language of racism? The dog whistles, the disclaimers of modern racism? Most Republicans now accept that overt racism is widely reviled and so those few who are very racist or the many that pander to racists, have learned a coded, subtler style. Trump is testing the boundaries to see how close he can come to old-school overt racism without more of his own party turning against him.

Don't let a reaction to the worst elements of the left force you into a box. You may be surprised that when you get past the surface noise, there is much of value to be gained by understanding the full worldview, the values and assumptions of the other side. You may not agree, but at least you'll be judging based on substance, not an uncritical acceptance of claims made by right wingers.