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by triceratops 2533 days ago
> It's not easy for American citizens to get permanent work/live visas in most other countries either.

Getting permanent residence in any foreign country is going to be a more difficult process than getting a tourist visa. I think you're underestimating how much harder the American system is, and how things really are easier for US citizens in other countries.

To take a random example, Americans can apply for work permits while physically within Germany[1]. After some years of residency (I think it's 3) one can apply for a EU Blue Card if one has a college degree and an employment contract of EUR 53k/year[2] (easily attainable by a software engineer in Germany).

So your average HN US citizen software engineer can:

1. Interview with a German company on video chat

2. Visit visa-free for an onsite interview

3. Sign offer, apply for work and residence permits after relocating. Permits are for the duration of the employment contract

4. Get a Blue Card after 3 years

Which honestly sounds like a breeze compared to what a foreign-born software engineer would need to do to work in the US:

1. https://www.internations.org/go/moving-to-germany/visas-work...

2. https://www.howtogermany.com/pages/eu-blue-card.html

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except why would you ever migrate to Germany where wages are like 50% of the US salary for IT engineers and like 20% of silicon valley wages for senior folks.

supply/demand in action, and difficulty of the immigration process is just an indicator of that

What about fields other than software?

Besides there are lots of reasons to emigrate to Germany besides the money - minimum 5 weeks' vacation every year, employee-friendly labor laws, cheaper healthcare and childcare, college, more interesting city centers all sound pretty good to me.

Also, "you can make a ton of money here so there's no need to improve our processes" isn't a great argument for the US to make.