[belltaco]

>If America wants diversity in immigration, then the country limit is doing its work perfectly as was designed.

No, it's not. The H1Bs that the bill benefits are already in the US and have been living there for several years. The lack of a green card is stopping them from switching jobs, which lowers their salaries which hurts the job market. It also stops them from starting up their own companies and creating jobs for everyone.

>You failed to mention that fact that there is entire industry of bringing Indian engineers into US from Hyderabad (and cities like that) via student visas, H1-B, and then GC. It is this system that is flooding the immigration with H1-B

Body shops and US companies prefer Indians instead of other nationalities because they would be stuck in the backlog which makes it really hard for them to switch jobs, so they can be paid less while reducing turnover costs. This bill will equalize things so people from other nations will be on a level playing field.

[manas666]

that's the problem of broken H1-B system that indians abused for a very long time and enjoyed the benefits of getting tens of thousands H1-B eveyr year. Now are paying for it by being in a queue.

H1-B is a temporary visa for 3 years, and was designed as such. This is not a guaranteed GC, so let's talk about who is abusing the system from working as intended, rather than lifting systemic barriers that will hurt everybody (including american citizens that will lose their jobs really fast)

[belltaco]

>rather than lifting systemic barriers that will hurt everybody (including american citizens that will lose their jobs really fast)

The bill does not add one new green card or one new H1B visa so I have no idea of what people like you keep talking about. Looks like the fake news and propaganda has won. I give up.

>Now are paying for it by being in a queue.

Yea lets punish rural doctors for being born in India.

https://money.cnn.com/2018/06/08/news/economy/immigrant-doct...

[thrill]

Indians did not abuse it if the law allowed their entry. There is no such thing as "working as intended" when it comes to law - there is (non)compliance. Congress's intent is fully specified when the law is written. Any wiggle room is due to Congress's inability to be precise, and occasionally interpreted by the Court when some specific law becomes a big enough issue to a complaining party that it's worth their effort to take it that far.

[manas666]

yes they do abuse and they are very creative in bending the law for own favor. H1-B program was designed as temporary program to bring skilled immigrants. But somehow ended up being abused by huge tiered network of consultancies:

1. CV/resumes for H1-B candidates - are 90% fake, inflated experience -> that leads to hiring overseas nationals over domestic professionals.

2. Usage of training visas (cpt/opt) for actual work. The training visas are for training entry-level students, not just a work authorization for experienced foreign IT specialist working for entry level wages.

3. Lower effective wage in the industry, due to inability of Department of Labor to depress wages. They go around the rules by creatively choosing specialty occupation codes to determine prevailing market wage and make foreign-brought IT talent way cheaper than domestic ones.

4. Outsourcing itself allows greedy companies to slash full-time staff and increase profits, as foreign IT nationals require fewer/cheaper benefits than domestic -> that's why C2C and consultancies in general are in high demand

there are countless other examples of how the system was abused that I can go on and on forever.