[tarwater11]

It seems like the easy answer is to kick human drivers off the road, right? That will eliminate a great deal of the unpredictability. Start with a small section of a city, and if the results are good, people will want to expand it.

[exhilaration]

Also bicyclists, and also human pedestrians -- they decide to cross roads at the craziest times. A city without humans is what we need.

[mirceal]

this sounds exactly what machines silently taking over would say

[_jal]

Yeah, no. I will become one of those people who beats up robots. I live in San Francisco, and the reason I put up with the cost and garbage and stupidity in large part is because I don't need a car.

Cars already own non-urban everything, and can stay there. We need to be moving in the other direction. How's that ban on cars on Market St. going?