[want2know]

I even believe in ten years the world will be completely different.

When a country like India lacks drinking water a huge mass of people will be on the move.

In Europe food production is in trouble. This will also cause a lot of trouble and people will start to move to better places.

Maybe we will survive but that's indeed different from 'we will be fine'.

[throwaway5752]

It's hard to imagine an orderly retreat to more habital climates for that number of people. I think you underestimate the synergy between war, famine, and disease.

In this case the "royal we" is hiding a lot of death. I'm sure even in a 5 deg C worst case model maybe a couple of hundred million people can survive by the poles. But that means 90-95% population die-off. That's ignoring trophic web collapses and ecological damage to the world that human beings have adapted to for hundreds of thousands of years.

[temp-dude-87844]

I think the previous poster is being charitably vague, so that the reader can substitute in their own interpretation whether resulting pressures on people will result in orderly migration, displacement, or warfare. If history is any indication, the answer likely to be a mix of the above.

But their interpretation shows a more nuanced understanding than those who seem to suggest masses of people will die in situ, or driven to the fringes of the planet to seek relief from the heat. People and societies are quite adaptable, provided they have the means to modify their immediate environment. Billions of people live in states that will likely fare all right, because they can mitigate impacts with modest effort and resource cost, despite the presence of political movements that are fixated with collective guilt.

The other billions who are less fortunate will be subject to intense pressures for their survival. We've seen this before, and should know what to expect. It's just that we're uncomfortable talking about it.

[truculent]

IIRC "worst case scenario"s are more like an 8C Eocene-like equilibrium

[at-fates-hands]

> When a country like India lacks drinking water a huge mass of people will be on the move.

Its my understanding Pepsi and Coca Cola have been an economic boon for the country, but in the process, monopolizes a large quantity of the water supply.

Maybe doing away with these two companies might be a positive first start?

https://www.thoughtco.com/coca-cola-groundwater-depletion-in...

[ryanmercer]

>When a country like India lacks drinking water a huge mass of people will be on the move.

Not just India,"Two million in Zimbabwe’s capital have no water as city turns off taps" https://www.climatechangenews.com/2019/07/15/two-million-zim...

[newnewpdro]

Reading that article leaves me with the impression that a major component of their problem is substantially polluted water sources, which I don't think we can blame on climate change.

[blaser-waffle]

> Harare obtains raw water from four dams: Harava, Seke, Chivero and Manyame. Harava and Seke are completely dry. This has led Harare city council to decommission the Prince Edward water treatment plant, which is fed by those dams.

> This has left only one water treatment works – Morton Jaffray – supplying water to Harare and the four other satellite towns.

> The dams that feed Morton Jaffray – Chivero and Manyame – are larger and closer to capacity, said Harare mayor Herbert Gomba. But they are “heavily polluted”, requiring more than 10 chemicals to purify. Upstream towns dump domestic, sewage, agricultural and mining waste into the rivers that feed the capital’s dams. The city is spending $3 million a month on water treatment chemicals, Gomba said, forcing it to restrict the amount released.

50% of their dams are dry, and 1/4 of their dams are heavily polluted. It's disingenuous to say that pollution is their main problem when 1/2 of their water just evaporated. Nor is there any reason to think that their needs would be met by that 1 dam being non-polluted -- that may make it a lesser crisis, but it's still a crisis, caused by climate change.

[ryanmercer]

It mentions drought in the second line (the quote just above the photo) and failed rains on down a bit:

>Zimbabwe is getting warmer as the climate changes and heavy rains and droughts are becoming more intense.

[newnewpdro]

Which apparently wouldn't be such a crisis if their other abundant water sources weren't too polluted to use, based on what I read in the article.

[root_axis]

Two sides of the same coin. Those who are opposed to clean air standards are also opposed to clean water standards.

[vowelless]

Buy real estate in the northern regions. Make bank in 50 years (assuming you can whether the riots and uprisings).

[QuickToBan]

s/whether/weather