[rossdavidh]

...and that right there is Huawei, Boeing, Exxon, BP, and a thousand other big corporate dumpster fires in a nutshell.

[flattone]

Dumpster fires are everywhere not just large companies: contractors, restaurants, marriages etc.

[solotronics]

I would argue that the natural state of things is variable levels of dumpster fire.

[PeterStuer]

True, but greenshifting, cya driven development and derailment by metrics come natural with a multilayered middlemanager organization.

[BubRoss]

He didn't say anything about big companies being exclusive to disasters.

[flattone]

agree.i didnt mean to seem like i thought he/she/they said only big companies.

but isnt it sufficiently common public language to focus on large /corporate/capitalism etc? i only hoped to offer a note to support thia this conversation from falling into that.

thanks for following up on that, good catching!