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by smallgovt 2539 days ago
This is a very cynical perspective. The public markets are generally very unforgiving. This is why so many tech companies are choosing to stay private longer. If it was all about duping the public, they would IPO asap before the ship sinks.

Sure, there are examples like Blue Apron that seem to fit your narrative, but they are the exception.

If your narrative was correct, hedge funds or other intelligent investors would quickly catch on and short funds that purely track tech IPO's and make a killing. Obviously playing the markets is not this easy.

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>The public markets are generally very unforgiving. This is why so many tech companies are choosing to stay private longer.

Can you even explain what that means?

In my estimation the companies are staying private longer so the VCs can blow up the valuations pre IPO higher than anytime in history, whereas, if the startup IPO’d from the start there is no way to continue the growth while sustaining the loss (in the real world business have to make a profit to continue) and VCs couldn’t make the same profit they do now, but in all other respects the risk would be the same.

Anyway it wouldn’t be to hard to look at the IPO of VC backed tech startups and determine what % had profits vs operating losses (obviously my guess is the majority are IPOing at losses). Then, a further analysis could be done to see if the average startup company valuations/market caps declined post IPO and how much pre IPO investors/shareholders took off the table.

Edit: looks like since 2010 there have been 100+ tech unicorns ($1B+ valuation) and ~2/3 didn’t make profit. Wish I could readily calculate how much VCs made taking those companies public, maybe someone can link an article/data.

"In this year’s first quarter, the electric scooter operator lost nearly $100 million while revenue shrank sharply to only about $15 million"

Bird seems to fit the cynicism just as well as Blue Apron. I'm unclear how the above ever turns into anything viable.

Sure, many of them are intelligent, and factor in the risk they're duped. Nevertheless, they are all looking for a good investment, and "growth" seems like a good metrics. From an investor's perspective, if you pass on a company like Bird, they will find another investor, and if they succeed, this will be a lost opportunity for you.