[gcoda]

Effective APM limits is not enough.

No human can maximize target firing before each shot like AlphaStar did. Not a lot of people even talked about it

[hannasanarion]

For the demo they were limiting average APM not EAPM. That's how it was able to get such superhuman battle micro: by playing slower than usual before and after so that the average was below the limit.

[defertoreptar]

Sounds like they're addressing this concern:

> These caps, including the agents’ peak APM, are more restrictive than DeepMind’s demonstration matches back in January, and have been applied in consultation with pro players.

[bduerst]

Alphastar's APM wasn't even abused that much either back in January: https://deepmind.com/blog/alphastar-mastering-real-time-stra...

[JyB]

It was. It's APM burst of picture perfect micro in tense fights were insane.

Human player holding down a key that produces thousands APM certainly skewed this misleading chart.

[bduerst]

This chart is all bots, not humans players...

[JyB]

Mana and TLO (red and yellow) are human players.