[reallydude]

> what could be changed in the ecosystem to support this goal?

1. Change the syntax. Elixir wasn't far enough. Not at all and BEAM doesn't need to know, so we have a chicken-egg problem of people entrenched don't want to spend time that will help the language and underlying strategies become more widely adopted. Perhaps this was the production feedback loop you were referencing. We still don't have a good methodology for measuring all sorts of things in software dev. 10 years, 20 years, the language may just never do more than incremental changes (like elixir).

2. Handling text is still awful in these languages.

[justin66]

> Handling text is still awful in these languages.

In contrast to what? Honestly just curious.

[ch4s3]

You can do really cool stuff with SNOBOL[1] or TRAC. Really any homoiconic Lang or lisp will do great things with text. But I think Elixir handles text just fine if it’s UTF-8.

[1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNOBOL

[justin66]

> SNOBOL

Oh dear.

[ch4s3]

Yeah, I'm not really serious about that one.