[dsfyu404ed]

When your only reliable way to get a pay bump is switching jobs adopting any system that ties pay to tenure seems awfully synonymous with pulling up the ladder behind one's self.

[vcarl]

Not sure where "tying pay to tenure" came up, unless that's how you view what unions do? A union just means a group of employees negotiating as a unit, what changes they ask for isn't dictated in advance.

[dsfyu404ed]

>Not sure where "tying pay to tenure" came up,

This is how basically every union workplace in the US works. The pay-scale becomes very rigid. Why would tech be different?

[benaiah]

> This is how basically every union workplace in the US works. The pay-scale becomes very rigid.

How do you address, other than dismissal, the existence of the SAG and other unions for industries with vastly varying pay levels?

[Apocryphon]

Surely a next-gen labor union based in the tech industry could find a new way to fight ageism without mandating a seniority system. Why does tech have to act the same way as before? I thought we were supposed to be innovators?

[dsfyu404ed]

The status quo is pretty good, good enough that I (and a lot of people) don't want to make that bet.

[Apocryphon]

When there is a proposal that is suggested, there are proponents and detractors. That is tautological. Blankly insisting that things are good enough is just as empty as blankly insisting that things aren't.

[dragonwriter]

> This is how basically every union workplace in the US works.

Well, in that the vast majority of union jobs are either public sector blue-collar, or both, sure.

Non-blue-collar, private-sector union jobs don't work that way, though they often have firm minimums (like SAG-AFTRA “scale” pay.)