[zzo38computer]

I also think many GUI are too bloated or other problems (and most widget sets don't implement scrollbars like Xaw, and use antialiased fonts with too much kerning, and other problems). TUI can help many things, although also command-line interfaces are. (I use Heirloom-mailx, which is email program with command-line interface; and I am also writing a NNTP client software with command-line interface too.)

[Crinus]

> and most widget sets don't implement scrollbars like Xaw

Do you consider Xaw scrollbars a feature? They feel totally inconvenient to use with their weird "the position you click at is the amount to scroll and the button to use is the direction to scroll" behavior. The only way i use such a scrollbar myself is with middle clicking since that is the only way i find them usable.

[zzo38computer]

I consider it a feature. It might be better if right-clicking used the distance from the end instead of from the beginning as the amount to move (so that the clicked position would then be on the bottom of the screen, like left-clicking scrolls the clicked position to the top of the screen) (but also, maybe it isn't better that way), but it is still better than Microsoft scrollbars I think. I use all three clicks on it, and I think it isn't inconvenient; it is good.