[RosanaAnaDana]

I think any one making the point of speed of development have seriously missed the boat. Lets be real: tibbles suck. Once you get the hang of data.table syntax for matrix operations, its superiority becomes impeccably clear.

I run a data science group a large geospatial company and we develop day in and day out in R and python. We've purged tidyverse as much as possible from all of our code base. We've moved completely over to data.tables, which make the vast majority of the tidyverse irrelevant.

[hadley]

Let’s keep the discussion civil please. People have legitimately different needs, and just because a package isn’t well suited to your needs doesn’t mean that it doesn’t help people with different backgrounds and goals.